KARMA-19: Guy buys 17,000 bottles of hand sanitizer and now Amazon won't let him sell them because reasons.

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04/04/2020 at 00:56 • Filed to: None

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Kinja'd!!! ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/04/2020 at 01:14

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Cops should go confiscate the stuff and give it to medical workers and first responders. Or just resell them at cost. 


Kinja'd!!! Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/04/2020 at 01:18

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To atone to his community, he should donate it all to his local hospitals.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/04/2020 at 01:21

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I like the “I’m being paid for my public service” line, such an entitled lack of self-awareness . I wonder if this fine capitalist has changed his name yet.


Kinja'd!!! Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > fintail
04/04/2020 at 01:36

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When I had to study old economic writings (like by Adam West? No, no, no, that’s not right...), one argument for capitalism was the encouragement of innovation, namely, improving an existing product/idea for profit. Society improves, institution makes money, alleged win-win! But buying existing products — in a response to demand OR an attempt to influence supply — in order to immediately resell them for a stupid profit is just pathetic. Triple the bullshit when this is preying off of the pandemic and limiting access to supplies that could actually SAVE LIVES. If hell exists, the devil would turn this guy into a case of single-ply toilet paper for his personal washroom.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
04/04/2020 at 01:44

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What’s your problem? He was just doing a public service, trying to benefit society by selling scarce product to panicked people during a time of crisis at a significant markup. It’s good business. He’s just building it himself, using those bootstraps and being a creator.

At the very least, he should find himself without TP every time he has a messy episode.


Kinja'd!!! AdamB > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/04/2020 at 02:08

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I remember seeing this and a newer article said he donated all of them, can't find a link to the new one though.


Kinja'd!!! SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/04/2020 at 05:51

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Kinja'd!!! facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/04/2020 at 06:16

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Since that story is three weeks old, a small update:

The Man With 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer Just Donated Them: A Tennessee man had planned to sell his stockpile at marked-up prices online. Now he is under investigation for price gouging.

He donated 2/3 to a Tennessee church to distribue to Tennessee first responders, and the Tennessee A ttorney General’s office took the rest to distribute to first responders in Kentucky (where he also bought stuff). I haven’t heard if the donation was enough to avoid price-gouging charges.

It’s amazing that he was so oblivious, I don’t know how anyone could think that this story would be “Mean old Amazon hurting small seller” instead of “asshole breaks law while hurting availability of critical supplies”.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > fintail
04/04/2020 at 10:36

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What’s interesting is that we do have mechanisms to control speculation and hoarding of vital resources that have been in place for a long time. Take the concept of prior appropriation,  which is the hallmark of western water law. You only have a right to water you’ve diverted if you’ve put it to “beneficial use”. It would be interesting if we started applying some of these wild west laws to other products. While they still fit into the capitalist market, there’s a healthy dose of communal thinking built into them.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > DipodomysDeserti
04/04/2020 at 12:42

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Sadly, mechanisms are only as valuable as the enforcement behind them.  So far, anti-gouging rules appear to have been applied inconsistently at best.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > fintail
04/04/2020 at 12:47

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It’s been regulating water law for a few centuries in the West. Of course regulation used to involve you sticking a shotgun in someone’s face.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > DipodomysDeserti
04/04/2020 at 12:49

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Maybe water has more firm regulation/enforcement than hand sanitizer and TP :)


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > fintail
04/04/2020 at 13:10

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Oh, most definitely. But what I’m saying is these mechanisms already exist and have been applied to our existing system for a long time. We could apply them to other vital resources.

Society has become too rigid in it’s thinking. Humans (and every other organism) are successful when we’re pliable.

I live in a city that uses canals that were originally dug by a civilization 1k years ago. The climate changed, the desert got drier and they went back to being nomadic. People with different technology conquered the area, reused the wells, and started practicing large scale agriculture again. The desert is drying out once again (and the new guys weren’t as smart as they thought they were), so we can either adapt again, or disappear.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > DipodomysDeserti
04/04/2020 at 13:32

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Oh, I agree. I see it as coming down to enforcement of small time stuff like consumer goods , which is inconsistent on a good day.

So long as the opportunists are effectively given free reign, nothing will change.    We seem to be relying on positive reinforcement in this area rather than anything negative to encourage people to behave properly.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
04/04/2020 at 17:17

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yeah, but that means you rely on the classical definition of “capitalism,” which is private ownership of the means of production (e.g. machinery) to produce goods to sell at a profit.

Just buying and re-selling stuff at a markup isn’t involving capital, it’s just being a middleman.